secondlina: (Default)
[personal profile] secondlina
Oh, one of my rare drawing-lacking posts.

I just feel like typing this down, maybe because it somewhat concerns me. As a creator, I wonder about things like ethnicity in my stories. I am currently working on another comic book and wondering 'Gee, maybe I should make the heroin black or latino? Because ethnic represention is good?'

Yes, ethnic representation is good, and if your gay/ethnic/minority representative character(s) fit in the story, you should throw them in. But I strongly believe minority characters should not be inserted in a story for the sake of just being there. There is a big difference between a Token characters and a character. A character moves with the story and his/her ethnicity should move with the story. Not stick out like a tree in a plain. The black buddy should not be identified as the black buddy. He should just be the friend.

Everybody knows I admire Avatar: that last Airbender for it's treatment of cultures and handicaps. Most chracters come from different ethnic groups and two influencial characters are handicaped (one blind - Toph - who became a talented earthbender in part thanks to her blindness and a kid in a wheelchair fascinated by flight who is described to have true airbending spirit). Now these characters are not token characters. They flow with the story. Their ethnicity seems natural and after a while, you don't even notice all the details present (The way Toph moves, very caracteristic of blind people, or the details in all the costumes...) because it works so well. But then you watch things like the Fantastic Four movie where the originally (white) token blind character Alicia Masters as also been turned black. She plays the role of two token positions? She really feels like she's been thrown in there to satisfy the public. It's the same with those lipstick lesbian characters thrown in a story.

A lipstick lesbian is a lesbian who is basically a straight girl who is into girls (and often times bisexual). Because a real lesbian is too scary for cinema? I realise that some lesbians in real life are lipstick lesbians in real life, but man. Most lesbians I see in the media seem really unrealistic. There is no relationship between them and their girlfriends. Just empty space for the viewer to go 'Oh, hot!'

So far, I created about 3 characters of a distinctive sexual orientation / ethnicity (one that most of you might know is Renge) and in the case of those characters, they flowed. Their difference worked with the story. They did not feel like Token characters. They were just characters.

I might be accused in the future of making stories with mostly white characters. But in all honesty, I'm a white suburban middle-class woman and most the people I know are white, suburban, middle-class people. I use what I know (or research the crap out of what I wish to use) because I don't want to risk creating Token characters. Because in all honesty, to me, throwing in a Token character seems like more of a flip-off then not including an ethnic character at all. I am from an ethnic group myself (french-canadian) and rude representation of French canadians in the media does irk me (though I realise stereotypes exist because someone somewhere fits it). I would hate for someone to feel that way when reading one of my works.

So, as a white female, I believe I should take a special care on wheter my character is a token character, or just a character. No matter what we say, we write what we know, and write what we don't know badly-to-good because all the research in the world doesn't beat experience. I find works like Avatar and Strangers in Paradise to be great miniroty representations, but I look at them with white girl eyes. So thay might actually be crazy offensive underneath and I would never know.

I guess that point i'm getting at is that characters have a part of ourselves in them so we have to be careful what part of us is there (hopefully not the really racist or misogynic part of us). We need more black authors, latino directors, Indian cartoon artist, working here in america, creating things that hold that true soul of what being what they are is. Not just a pale token shadow.

-Isa

p.s. I was really impressed by Avatar: the last Airbender, Strangers in Paradise (even if it is written by a guy and is a story about women), the webcomic Yu+Me dream, the webcomic Dreamless, the webcomic Something Positive and the comic Blankets for their treatments of religions and minorities.

Date: 2009-07-10 05:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ichiban-victory.livejournal.com
Just a little note on the 'Asian' thing, I've lived around and worked with many Asians, but they don't like to be lumped together. One example is a girl I worked with who was Korean, but everyone assumed she was Chinese. She really hated that. I know Chinese people feel the same about being likened to Japanese people, and vice-versa. Pretty much, yeah, do a lot of research. Perhaps even look into the different cultures for something that you think fits the character.

And just to keep it all in perspective, I think we all think that way in some regard. I may be a white American female, but I hate being associated with the stereotype. (Not all girls like to shop all day and act like idiots.) So it can be as far-reaching as racial background to as simple as how one person of the same group of people acts compared to someone else of the same group.

Much luck with the story. ^_-

Date: 2009-07-10 01:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neshel.livejournal.com
Oh, ya, I'm sure, and I didn't mean it that way. I just haven't decided between Chinese or Japanese at the moment, so I just grouped them together in my ranty-ness. I know there are huge differences and even a history of cultural animosity, I was just trying to express my frustration in as few words possible. I mostly wouldn't lump them together that way, especially not culturally, but I was thinking more appearance-wise just from my mental image of the character, so I didn't have anything more specific in mind yet. I will most certainly be anxiously researching both to decide and after my decision is made to be as respectful/real as possible.

I'm just still worried about mucking it up. ^^;

Oh, and I know there are lots of issues with stereotyping beyond racial, it's just that that is my biggest worry at the moment. I'm a white valley girl and a lesbian and I don't fit into the stereotypes for either and they both drive me nuts. Trust me, I know all about the stupidity of sterotyping. I'm not worried about that, because I know how to write without doing it, I think, it's respecting cultural backgrounds that I'm afraid of fucking up because, well, mostly I think because I come from a background in which there was no real sense of cultural identity. No religion, parents from very different backgrounds that they had mostly left behind and an emphasis on choosing my own way in life.

Date: 2009-07-10 01:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] secondlina.livejournal.com
This kinda brings up the argument of type casting - people who lump various similar cultures together to express a more general stereotype (like people who choose chinese actors to play any asian culture). I have cousins who are Taiwanese, so I can understand the whole issue with the argument.

It,s strange how typecasting also lumps you in with stereotypes you because you remind everyone of one. Like you say, you're lesbian and valley girl and yet fit neither.

I think it's hilarious because I was often typecasted as gay myself because of my persona and the way I move/talk. Yet, i'm pretty straight.

Profile

secondlina: (Default)
secondlina

August 2013

S M T W T F S
    123
45 678910
11121314151617
18192021222324
25262728293031

Most Popular Tags

Style Credit

Expand Cut Tags

No cut tags
Page generated Jan. 23rd, 2026 11:31 am
Powered by Dreamwidth Studios