secondlina | Thanksgiving weekend!

Namesake Image! This is the color cover for chapter 2 (see, I told you guys I was ahead).

Lately i've been drawing while watching Disney movies. I re-watched "The rescuers down under" and watched for the first time Tinkerbell's Movie. I had never seen that movie, and didn't really want to that much, since it looked more kiddish then normal Disneys. Turns out, it was okay. It was really kiddish, but I have to admit I loved the opening sequence (aside for the cheesy narration) where Tink was born. I was a little bugged by the fact that Tink could speak (it violates Peter Pan's original story) but I liked the fact that fairies had a specific ability. Then I had to get over the fact that Tink had Katara's voice and that Glinda was another one of the fairies. Though the whole Katara thing gives the parts where Tink is manipulating water a fun new dimension. The fairy friends are okay. I found them kinda funny, aside from the stupid Tinkers WHO TRY TOO HARD TO BE FUNNY. Tinkerbell turns out to be the fairy of Lost Things. I kinda liked that. I was amused that, at the end of the movie, she returns a toy to a little girl called Wendy. Well, if it's the same Wendy that meets Peter Pan, it's kinda ironic that the little girl that first inspired Tinkerbell will be the future target of her hatred.

In any case, cute movie. Definitely watchable. But also REALLY aimed at kids. A good thing to watch while doing something else or if you have kids.

Rescuers was still as awesome as I remembered. GIANT. EAGLE.

My parents came by yesterday to visit and bring a brand new drawing table. The Ottawa university just gutted my mom's department. A good bit of furniture was gotten rid of, including a giant drawing/light table. My parents saved the table from a faith in the trash. So now I have a 30-year table who is in great shape! I think nobody was using it. Not since the internet lets people print stuff rather then trace it for presentations (It's the children's education department). We then ate a restaurant and they left.

Today my friend Sandra. We went on a quest for screws (to fix the chair of the drawing table), ate food, drew a bunch and watched "Secret of Kells". By the by, Secret of Kells is a magnificent European chidren's animation. All of you who love animation, please rent it. It's...amazing. The storyline is a bit harder to follow (it's not built like an american movie), but it's amazing none the less. Don't believe me? Check it out.

*laughs* All I talk about is drawing, animated movies and food! Shows you guys what I do as of late. I'm busy, yet not busy at the same time. It's a little odd. But I think this weekend showed that I should go out more.

- Isa

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Heh, I know that Tinker Bell is suppose to "talk" in "fairy", but having her speak still make me feel weird at first. One of the elements I loved about the character in all it's incarnation was it's silence and ability to be very important and expressive with very little (she's a flashlight halo in most of the play versions, for instance). But I though it was nice Disney respected the "Tinker" aspect of her (In the original play, she is described by Barrie as a fairy who mended pots and kettles). The whole quest of/for acceptance was nice too, and speaks to children. I liked how that character was passionate too, since Barrie said Tinker Bell could only feel a single emotion at the time, due to her small size (it's why she goes from very loving to destructive when Wendy comes along. When she gets jealous, her whole body is dedicated to the task!). And Katara's voice does suit her.

To resume, I found Disney did a good job in mixing Disney canon with the original Peter Pan canon. Though, I think I would have liked if this movie was worked on as a theatrical realease (probably would have been a little less kiddish and had better models. The animation was good, but not great). Still worth a watch in my opinion. Which is why I did watch it. *laughs*

Yeah, I heard about Jake Long. I should probably check that out too. Though, I was amused by the other famous voices in the fairy bunch (Lucy Liu? Glinda?)

The art is nice. At least, the little images they put in the credits.

Yeah, I know some people raised a stink at Tinkerbell being able to talk, but I think people end up being charmed by the movie(s) anyway that they forget. I guess I never minded since it was always obvious Tinkerbell was talking in Peter Pan, we just couldn't understand her. Besides, did anyone complain when Tinkerbell from the Hook movie spoke? She even got to be life-size for a short while... o_O

I hate to break it to you, but these Tinkerbell movies are purposely being directed at children. I think they're doing a great job of making kid-friendly movies without making then without charm for adults though. Parents and babysitters alike often have to watch movies alongside the kids, after all. ^_-

It's been forever since I watched the movie. Did the art look anything like this? I find it interesting that there are two versions of Tinkerbell and her fairy friends. The characters from the books and the movies are not the same at all, except for Tinkerbell herself. I personally prefer the art from the books more, but I still find the movies charming. Again, I wish I had my own kids so I had an excuse to buy the stuff!

Yeah, the art looked like that. It even looked better! I watched the movie on youtube, so maybe you can find the final part and check it out (yes, I know, shame, watching things on youtube, but the video rental I go to didn't have it!)

I don't think I mind her talking as much as other people have (especially since I love her voice-actress). I just really adored the silent aspect of the character. but it still works nicely. And hey, if one of the other movies have her forced into mimicry, then i'll find a bit of that again, right?

Just as a side note - I hate Tinkerbell in the Hook movie. It's pretty much the only element I hate about that movie. My mom tells me that even as I kid I went "NOT TINKERBELL!"

As a side note, Rufio from the Hook movie is played by the voice-actor that also did Zuko. Seems a lot of Avatar people get sent to Neverland!

Heh, even as kiddish movies, I enjoyed it. I guess I just want more. Like Ariel. "I want mooooooore"

Interesting side note about Peter Pan - According to several analysis of the the original book, it's said Peter didn't really understand Tink, but rather "heard" whatever he wanted to and analyzed her attitude a lot. Which is still interesting I find. It goes with the "kid playing with an imaginary friend" aspect of the story. I'm still glad to see the Tink movies. Especially since she is suppose to have died after the end of the first play (fairies only last a season in the original book! Good thing they didn't keep that in the Disney movie! I think it would be sad!)

(I think I watched on YouTube, too, actually.... I'm a terrible, awful person!)

Check out the teaser for the Great Fairy Rescue. It's fun seeing Tinkerbell trying to communicate with the little girl.

Ha ha! I always hated Tinkerbell in Hook as well, to be honest. Maybe I just don't care for Julia Roberts. Such big teeth!

I never read Peter Pan, isn't that sad? I really need to. I'd not be at all surprised if he couldn't actually understand Tinkerbell's speech, but there's a lot to be said about reading body language and tone in general. I don't speak the same language of cats or dogs, for example, but I've been around them long enough that I can usually understand what they are saying with their body language just fine. Tinkerbell would be even easier since she has the same look as a regular human, so you could read her facial cues and even gestures to understand what she's saying...or know when she's really upset with you! In case the red glow didn't give it away. ^_-;

(Doesn't Tinkerbell die in the play when Wendy says she doesn't believe in fairies? And wasn't another point of the play about getting the audience to show it believed in fairies to bring Tinkerbell back to life? They actually implemented that in Disney's Peter Pan sequel. I was actually taken back by it. How awful for poor little Tinkerbell to have her life depend on someone believing in her, especially when the child is staring right at her and denies her existence!)

Tinkerbell is brought back with the audience clapping/kids saying they believe in the play/book. But she dies after Wendy leaves anyways, simply because she has reached the end of her natural life (in the book it's said that she was a newborn almost when Peter fetched Wendy, and she dies after she leaves. The kids actually stay on Neverland for a few weeks. Fairies are kinda like mayflies in the books)

I didn't like how Julia Roberts plays a fully happy Tink. The worse parts of her persona are omitted fully. Plus, she doesn't have any fey logic. In short, I found the Tink in Hook to be way too human. And, also, that growing thing was just weird.

And yeah, Peter would read her body language. But also "invent" (he assumes she agrees with him when she really doesn't). Peter is Chaotic Neutral in the first books and he's a pure kid. That comes with the bad side of childhood.

Actually, in the books, Tink's talent is fixing pots and pans most of the time as opposed to inventing things, but both versions still have things I like and dislike about them.

( For example, I really don't like Vidia's voice in the movies. From reading the books so long, it doesn't suit her at all.)

I kinda like the "MacGyver" type of Tink. It allows room for a lot of creative scenarios.

Vidia's voice seemed okay to me. Maybe a little too much on the "i'm the rival and this is my rival voice" side.

I think part of it's 'cuz she was the voice of Bobby Hill and some other disney stuff she used her Bobby Hill voice on. I guess it's all I can hear when she talks. D:

Thanksgiving weekend!

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